Churches Today: Exactly Whom Or What Are You Following?

9/5/2020

This issue has been raised in various ways over the past four or five months, but I believe it bears repeating in the form a simple, concise question:

If your church no longer follows Jesus, then exactly whom or what are you following via your church?

9 Comments

Andrew

9/6/2020 03:04:44

We actually have a really good Catholic parish where I live. There's a younger, very traditionally oriented Priest who mostly does the Latin mass, and an older Priest, very politically incorrect Priest, who does the English, but in a very "traditional" form. Last week he said to stock up on food and water for your family and to share with neighbors if necessary. He said we may be in revolutionary times, and need to always be prepared to die for our Faith as Catholics - and that many, even most may fall away. This isn't a "schism" Church or anything, but under the local diocese.

Francis Berger

9/6/2020 07:28:42

@ Andrew - This is good to hear. No doubt, pockets of uncorrupted individuals within the various church systems do exist. Unfortunately, they are vastly outnumbered by the corrupted ones - and it is the corrupted ones who are driving policy.

Nathan Wright

9/6/2020 04:17:32

A harrowing thought there. I recently ventured back into a few churches to see if there was any I would expose my two young boys to. Interestingly the Eastern Orthodox church we had attended for a while had the least-intrusive virus measures. I think any might be too much for me, though.

I checked in on a Catholic Church, where I once witnessed the most beautiful service of my life -- a traditional Latin Mass with full choir -- and it was positively awful. Virus measures aggressively placed at crucial junctures throughout gave the impression of a kind of black mass running in parallel. I was greeted by a man who identified himself as an agent of the Virus Regime by asking if I was feeling sick (sick people aren't allowed in church now?). We no longer greet each other with a handshake but with a wave from an awkward distance (can't confess with one accord -- wouldn't want to catch the flu?). Communion suspended apparently, although a sham one is allowed to proceed.

I could go on; but yes, whom indeed? With Satan given a very conspicuous beachhead in the holy sanctuary, by the church leadership, is it still of Christ? This seems a continuation and expansion of Vatican II, which was said to introduce the denial of the real presence of the holy spirit in the communion.

Dr. Charlton warned us at the start of this. It is still a shock to see it play out.

Francis Berger

9/6/2020 07:33:33

@ Nathan - "Dr. Charlton warned us at the start of this. It is still a shock to see it play out."

Indeed. I can't say I am particularly surprised by what I see, but this lack of surprise does not dull the shock I experience when I see corrupted priests kneeling down before or conducting masses dedicated to Bolshevist Marxist Lunatics, or when I read church policies that are perfectly aligned with globalist agenda items.

Andrew

9/7/2020 14:41:02

@Nathan - If you’re Catholic, don’t try to church shop among non-Catholic churches as this will just water down your faith.

If you can find one in your area, a Church with a high-proportion of home schooling families will tend to be good. You mentioned Latin Mass, and that is always a good way to go, and the Church is probably just being obedient to the local Bishop (rather than being true-blue believers in the mandates).

Our church has a mask sign, but half the congregation doesn’t follow. We have no mask police - I would tell them to go away. I ripped out the little separators for the pews so we could sit down wherever we want - no one says anything.

Andrew

9/7/2020 14:44:32

Sorry to have so many posts, but -

SSPX tends to be the most faithful group, in total, and the most consistently logical. I don’t attend their parish but support them.

They’re really your best bet (as a group), but their are many good non-SSPX parishes that require more discernment in finding.

I’ve spoken personally with an SSPX priest, and they understand the truth behind and the evil nature of the current pandemic - but do seem to still be abiding by whatever “government requirements” exist - though they stayed open when all other churches were completely closed.

We are effectively living under a communist regime and must understand that - we are already the underground Church.

Francis Berger

9/7/2020 16:39:27

@ Andrew - "We are effectively living under a communist regime and must understand that - we are already the underground Church."

That's basically it. And if you are not part of a church, you are still a part of the underground church as long as you follow Christ.

Ingemar

9/7/2020 18:06:35

In my state (and it's a terrible one with the governor addicted to power) the SSPX are virtually unaffected by the regime rules. Not only that--our priest is fighting back using the law.

I'll also point out it was an SSPX priest in New York who sued the governor and mayor over these unjust restrictions on religious practice--and won.

A lot of these restrictions are paper tigers and the tyrants are counting on their victims believing they have more power than they actually have. They
are counting on the populace to do free police work for them. In many cases this backfired--recall back in April NYC's snitching app was flooded with Hitler memes and nude photos. Nevertheless you must still prepare for the contingency that a VirusThrall or a snitch may ruin you.

Michelle

9/8/2020 13:58:13

I left my Catholic church in May and haven't found a substitute yet. I am preparing my family to flee the State in which we live- Ingemar I believe we live in the same State- i am looking forward to finding a new church in our new State. The new community has a strong homeschooling presence and my visit last week found compliance to the birdemic restrictions very lax. I am hoping to find a church with equally lax adherence to the restrictions. At this point I don't care if it's "watered down" (as a previous poster stated), I just want a community where Christ is at the center instead of fear and insanity. I can argue the details later.

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