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The Conservative Carousel of Complicity

8/9/2021

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The conservative love affair with Hungary continues to bloom. Both Rod Dreher and Tucker Carlson are thoroughly enamored by the Hungarian government's staunch stances against illegal mass migration and the ongoing sexual-pedo-trans revolution and both men sincerely wish the United States would be more like Hungary on both fronts.

Furthermore, both Dreher and Carlson are convinced that the kind of national Christian-democrat conservatism Hungary espouses is a viable way forward in the perpetual culture war against the leftism, wokeness, and general insanity tearing away at the very fabric of Western civilization. Concerning the matter noted above, Dreher notes the following:    


Orban understands clearly that the globalist, consumerist, secularist, anti-family ideology that is now dominant in the West will wipe out all the things that conservatives should be eager to conserve. Someone tweeted yesterday that they never imagined that American politics would come down to Team Soros vs. Team Orban. Actually, it does: you can have an aggressively globalist, woke progressive, secular, free-market ideology, or you can have an aggressively nationalistic, anti-woke conservative, religion-friendly (but not sectarian) ideology that believes in the free market, but not at the expense of more important values. The middle ground is fast decreasing. The “principled Madisonian conservatives” and their sort cannot stand against woke militancy. You are going to have to decide, or your stance will be decided for you by circumstances.

I get where Dreher and Carlson are coming from. I really do. When I moved to Hungary from the Anglo world, I was very much inspired by Orbán and his stance against the "aggressively globalist, woke progressive, secular, free-market ideology." I thought I had moved to a country whose leaders seriously believe in important values steeped in Christianity. In many ways, I did move to a country like that, for even now it would be false to claim that Hungary is not a better place when it comes to the evils that have thoroughly saturated other Western countries, but Dreher's remark concerning a fast decreasing middle ground is revelatory in terms of exactly what kind of country Hungary is at the moment. 

"The middle ground is fast decreasing" is simply another way of describing the phenomenon of things coming to a point. Things effectively came to a point in 2020 with the Satanic global totalitarian coup, which was implemented via the birdemic. The overarching point about Hungary is that conservatives like Dreher and Carlson refuse to report upon the point in Hungary. 

Any conservative pundit who lauds Hungary's government for its anti-wokeness but fails to acknowledge the Hungarian government's complete and utter surrender to the 2020 global birdemic coup and its global diktat of "none are safe until all are safe" has not only demonstrated a total and inexplicable lack of discernment of evil, but has also revealed himself or herself to be complicit with the aims and objectives of the birdemic coup and, consequently, on the wrong side of the spiritual war. 

Here is a short list of items conservatives like Dreher and Carlson fail to mention in their gushing praise of Hungary as a beacon of goodness and conservatism:
  • The birdemic measures Hungary implemented in 2020/2021 were among the most draconian and heavy-handed in the world. 
  • Hungary was one of the first countries in Europe to push the peck program AND the peck passport program. 
  • Hungary was one of the first countries in the world to initiate a discrimination policy against the unpecked, effectively banning unpecked people from many public spaces. 
  • Though the Hungarian government professes to protect children's welfare at all costs, it has no reservations about mandating the peck for children. Plans are currently being drafted to mandate the peck for 12-16 year olds. 
  • The Hungarian government has been saturating the country with pro-peck propaganda since January, flooding the airwaves and news with some of the biggest lies and manipulations I have ever personally encountered. 
  • The conservative Hungarian government has fined many individuals and organizations for spreading "fake news" about the peck program. 
  • The Hungarian government has blamed the leftist-liberals for any anti-peck stance in the public.
  • The Hungarian government has encouraged Hungarian citizens to sign up for a third peck dose.  
And I could go on and on  . . . 

The birdemic has waned in Hungary for the time being. All restrictions and measures were lifted about six weeks ago. Since then, things have returned to what some would refer to as normal - no face masks, no social distancing, no unpecked discrimination, no peck mandates. On the surface, life looks and feels very much like it did before the birdemic appeared in country in March 2020. At the same time, the media continues to issue faint but ominous warnings of an impending fourth wave sparked by the latest Greek letter variant. 

Here's my prediction. The fourth wave hits Hungary in a few weeks' time. The government blames the fourth wave exclusively on the unpecked - including unpecked children - and unleashes a viscious propaganda campaign to turn the pecked portion of the population against their unpecked brothers and sisters. The government will then institute a series of "offers that cannot be refused", including peck mandates that are tied to employment and access to essential social and health services.

I wonder if conservatives like Dreher and Carlson will report on any of that. 

​Unlikely. 

Note added: I'm not sure how complicit Carlson really is. I am not all that familiar with him. He has, apparently, been critical of the birdemic and the peck. Nevertheless, he totally ignores the issue in his recent interview with Orbán, posted below for anyone who may be interested. 
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jorgen b
8/8/2021 23:01:06

There is nothing left for conservatism to conserve but the evil of the left. So instead of conserving we have to build theocrasy back better.

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bruce charlton
8/9/2021 09:34:32

Everybody in the mainstream is qualitatively of the left - in various quantitative degrees and flavours of emphasis; I wrote that as an observation in 2011 in Thought Prison - and it has become ever more obviously and extremely so.

Indeed, since things came to a point everybody who is not primarily Christian is of the left - including all those who are secondarily Christian, and those secular folk who regard themselves as primarily enemies of the left.

This means that everybody who is not of the left (or who is engaged in identifying their own repenting their residual unresolved leftism) is not of the mainstream - and their views will be regarded as extreme and/or unrealistic because so far outwith the mainstream.

Carlson and Dreher apparently want to maintain The System, but with a new leadership, priorities and direction; however The System is intrinsically evil, so that is not an option - so they are on the wrong side.

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bruce charlton
8/9/2021 12:00:23

What continue to amaze me is the way that intelligent, informed and apparently sensible people (including many who profess Christianity a follow onerous Christian practices) simply cannot see what has happened, and fail to discern the evil motivations at work.

I feel about the birdemic and Christians much as I did about climate change and scientists. Any 'scientist' who could not immediately recognize the fraud of climate change could not be trusted. Someone who cannot recognize such gross, sustained and obvious fraud, most be fundamentally dishonest.

And "Christian" (no matter how devout) who cannot immediately recognize the gross, sustained and obvious evil of the birdemic-peck excuse for materialist totalitarianism must (whether wittingly or implicitly) have signed-up to the Satanic agenda.

The degree of frequent, habitual self-blinding that must be involved - albeit with constant social and media reinforcement - never ceases to astonish and appall.

Because, of course, if one has to point-out and 'explain' such a big and obvious thing as a global satanic coup, then the person is by definition incapable of perceiving or acknowledging it.

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Francis Berger
8/9/2021 21:49:30

@ Bruce - "And "Christian" (no matter how devout) who cannot immediately recognize the gross, sustained and obvious evil of the birdemic-peck excuse for materialist totalitarianism must (whether wittingly or implicitly) have signed-up to the Satanic agenda.

This has been tough for me at times, especially these past six months. So many Christians have revealed themselves to be on the wrong side. I don't know what to make of it other than believe most have chosen some kind of insincere willful oblivion as a coping mechanism.

I get the sense that acknowledging the global Satanic coup would make many lose their faith in God - why would God allow that to happen in the world?; how could God allow such evil? etc.

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Heather Shaler
8/9/2021 19:10:03

I used to attend an Orthodox church (OCA), and I'm still in touch with many people. Last year I watched the church rupture over the handling of the birdemic, with several families leaving for a ROCOR mission so that they could meet and worship without restrictions. As I thought about different people on the two sides of the rupture, I realized that the ROCOR people all pass Bruce Charlton's litmus tests, and the OCA people fail most or all of them. Even more interesting is that all the conservative OCA people are really, really into Rod Dreher, reading all his books and articles, and bringing him up in every single discussion I have with them, no matter how distant the topic is. It's become my own little master litmus test - where does one stand on Rod Equal-to-the-Apostles Dreher?

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Francis Berger
8/9/2021 21:50:43

@ Heather - Oddly enough, Dreher has become one of my own personal litmus tests of serious Christianity - so, you're on to something.

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jorgen b
8/10/2021 03:21:56

I've never heard of this guy. Oh, he wrote that book Benedict Option? The premise is dumb on its face. St. Benedict who reformed the monastery system reformed a pre-existing monastery system, for starters, so the system was already there. (In fact from my understanding, Benedict basically forced independent monasteries into the Catholic church. So Benedict was more a pro-System guy infiltrating and subjugating the monasteries, the way I look at it.) Secondly, yeah sure monks can segregate from society (and did so before Benedict, who actually diminished that segregation by forcing the monasteries to be under the jurisdiction of secular bishops) but can married people with kids segregate from society like that? So I never bothered to read the book because on its face it seems like a non-starter.

Mike Poile
8/9/2021 20:42:10

"Orban understands clearly that the globalist, consumerist, secularist, anti-family ideology that is now dominant in the West will wipe out all the things that conservatives should be eager to conserve". The key words here are "should be eager to conserve". Since conserving anything would likely be considered racist by their friends on the left, there's fat chance of that happening.

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Francis Berger
8/9/2021 21:55:02

@ Mike Poile - Left-right has become meaningless. In the West today, you are either a serious Christian or you are a leftist. It really is that simple.

The only values conservatives wish to preserve are "least-left" values. But least-left values are still leftist values, not Christian values.

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Francis Berger
8/10/2021 07:37:26

@ jorgen - After seeing how D responded and continues to respond to the birdemic, I am not at all inspired to read what he has to say about not living by lies, etc.

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