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Thordaddy Would Have Been Among Those Who Tried To Stone Jesus

3/8/2021

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Because the First Law of Perfection and objective Supremacy. 

Don't be alarmed if that made no sense. You see, it's not supposed to. It's a baited hook meant to real in suckers. 

If you have read any alt-right, reactionary, or Christian blog posts over the past decade or more, you have likely encountered comments like this:

A white Supremacist IS A white man who believes in and therefore strives towards objective Supremacy, i.e. The Perfect Man . . .

That's it . . . And your brain must self-scrub all other
Ideas of "white supremacy" for they are all the perverted manipulations of the anti-Christians.

Christian = Supremacist

White Christian = white Supremacist

Deny that one is a Supremacist IS TO DENY that one is a Christian. That is Universal Law. I did not devise this order. I am simply one of the very few who has broken through the brainwashing . . . 


Starting to make some sense, but not really? Great! That means thordaddy's managed to get you on the line and will now attempt to reel you in. 

I have been aware of thordaddy since 2013 or so; and in all that time I've noticed one significant thing - his comments rarely change. He regurgitates the same (p)erfection, radical autonomy, objective Supremacy gobbledygook almost everywhere goes.

I have allowed him to comment on my blog a couple of times in the past few years, but his observations never really clicked into troll mode. Last May, I came across his ranting on William James Tychonievich's From the Narrow Desert. Wm graciously allowed thordaddy a couple of comments, but wisely shut him down once the troll mode was initiated.

Anyway, thordaddy recently popped up on my blog again this past week. I generally don't indulge in comment conversations with trolls like thordaddy, but rather than shut him down, I decided to engage in a little back and forth with him.

My purpose? I wanted to see if thordaddy had engaged in any spiritual learning since I last encountered him back in May. I confronted his white supremacist shtick with some of my own thoughts concerning Romantic Christianity and Christianity in general. Sadly, my efforts went nowhere. Thordaddy is still the same old thordaddy. No spiritual learning at all. After a while, I finally had to turn off the tap.    

Aside from annoying and baffling virtually everyone, what's thordaddy's angle? What is this troll extraordinaire trying to accomplish? 

Well, to cut a long story short - he wants to convert us.

That's right. He wants to rally all deracinated, dispirited, and alienated white men to the glorious call of (P)erfection . . . or is it (p)erfection . . . or maybe just plain "perfection"?

Who knows and who cares? The only important thing you have to know is that thordaddy really cares about your white body and he desperately wants to save it . . . by enlisting you an open race war - or some such thing - so that all white men everywhere can finally enjoy their rightful place in objective Supremacy . . . or is it Objective supremacy . . . or maybe (ob)-ject -IVE SUPREmazzzy.


Now, thordaddy will interpret my mocking tone above as proof of my having internalized the cyst-STEM's (his term, not mine) anti-racism propaganda, which has made me believe that I truly am a White supremacist - or is it (w)hite supremacist - or, more plainly, that I genuinely regard myself as a white degenerate. Even worse, I have lost all sense of myself and now actively seek my own annihilation because of self-hatred. Thus, I am a self-hating, "no-self" Christian who has lost all sense of omnipotent (P)erfection because I no longer follow the Perfect Man - or as thordaddy likes to put it, "er, Jesus."

That's right. Thordaddy cares about Christian bodies as well, especially white Christian bodies. And he's going to do his darndest to save as many of those as he can:

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White Christians are disappearing (being annihilated or losing faith)…So Christianity AS WE KNOW IT, is disappearing (being annihilated).

A reasonable man interprets these facts as an unwillingness on the part of white Christians TO SURVIVE as white Christians.

And then a reasonable man concludes that this unwillingness to fight for one’s Chrisitian faith MEANS assumingly that one no longer believes in the Christian Assertion.

And what do you know, this reasonable man with access to modern media is inundated with images and sound bites of self-professed white Christians lamenting the death of Christianity while in the same breath denouncing the white Supremacist.

It’s astonishing to witness. The double-mindedness is a thing to behold. 

It is astonishing. Hey wait a minute . . . is it just me, or is thordaddy starting to make sense? Strangely enough, quite a few Christians have believed thordaddy has made sense in the past and he succeeded in reeling a few of them into his net.

So, how do we solve this double-mindedness, oh great pseudonymous father of the Norse thunder god? 
What do I need to do to acknowledge my god-given white Supremacy and then ensure the rest of the world's mongrel races acknowledges it, too? 

YOU, like all those white men at the Orthosphere, MUST BECOME HARDER Christians OR it is nighty-night for you are yours and perhaps the rest of “us.” The problem FOR YOU and those at the Orthophere isn’t your Christianity, BUT your unwillingness to be hard about it AND DEFEND YOURSELF WITH VIOLENCE.

I have no such stumbling block. I only need learn more of intellectual and ritual Christianity (this is partially achieved by reading the Orthosphere), but even there I WHOLEHEARTEDLY believe in the Christian Assertion.

And what do you know? One “sees” a nexus between the general modern rejection of the existence of The Perfect Man (The Christian Assertion) AND the totalitarian impulse to crush ALL white Supremacists.

Can you not “see” where this is going AS it pertains to white Christians? Cannot you not “see” who will be the first in line to take seat at the Inquisition table FORCED to answer to The Litmus Test? Are you a white Supremacist? Are you still oblivious to what it means to say “no?” Are you still oblivious to the understanding of the outside world that white Christians NO LONGER FIGHT for their Faith?

Bonald… Those at the Orthosphere are ritual and intellectual Christians, by and large. I am a fighter. And only now a fighter Christian. You actually need me at THIS STAGE much more than I need you BECAUSE intellectually I believe in the Christian Assertion more than you and ritually my lot will be in the physical battle as proof of my faith. But we are still allies at the end of the day.

A white Supremacist is a white man who believes in and therefore strives towards objective Supremacy, ie, The Perfect Man… Er, Jesus Christ. 


That does it! Where's my crusader armor? Deus vult!

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All right. That's enough nonsense. 

Look. Playtime is over. If you consider yourself a serious Christian and you happen to find anything thordaddy espouses appealing, you need to engage in some serious inner work and repentance. 

Let's cut right to the chase. This is a spiritual war. There are two distinct sides. We don't need men like thordaddy. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend if he is not on the side of good; and men like thordaddy are not on the side of good.

Men like thordaddy are not Christians. They are not at all interested in the primacy of the spiritual; they are interested in the externalization and objectification of the material. 

Men like thordaddy are exactly the same as the enemy they profess to fight; they are leftist materialists.

They are interested solely in the supremacy of power. More specifically, they are interested only in the supremacy of worldly power. Driven by resentment and fear; they spew nonsensical jargon and speak in invented, inverted languages that are meant to obscure rather than clarify. They very much want to convince you that they are on your side. 

They're not.  

Thordaddy wants to do the exact same thing the Establishment and the leftist radicals want to do - he wants to imprison you in the world. He wants you to enslave yourself in burdensome, meaningless abstractions. He is not interested in, nor does he understand real Christianity. To him, it is simply a means to an end - and that end is not spiritual, nor is it good. 

To get back to the title of this post, imagine thordaddy as a Jew living in Jesus's time. How do you think Jewish thordaddy would react to Christ? What kind of Jew would he be?

The kind who openly embraced Jesus's message of salvation and eternal life?

Or the kind who vehemently rejected Christ's offer of salvation?

Well, picture thordaddy living during the time of Christ. He would be a Jewish Supremacist then, wouldn't he? He would believe in the perfection of his homeland and his people - a perfection promised to his people via a covenant with an omnipotent God.

At the same time, thordaddy would be immensely resentful of the Roman occupation and would eagerly be awaiting the arrival of the messiah - the Perfect Man. Part David, part Moses, this Perfect Man would restore thordaddy's people and homeland and raise it up to eternal glory, which for thordaddy would be perfection. 

One day, thordaddy hears rumors that the messiah is in the city. Barely able to control his enthusiasm, he rushes into town and then stands and listens as an ordinary-looking individual preaches about the differences between earthly bread and spiritual bread.

A few minutes later, the individual claims he will not die as Abraham died. That he will rise from the dead and achieve everlasting life with the father in heaven. Moreover, that anyone who believed in him would be granted the same.

How would thordaddy have reacted to such declarations?  

The answer is quite simple; he would have been among the first to crouch down and scoop up a large, smooth rock. 

Why?

Because the First Law of Perfection and objective Supremacy.

Thordaddy is a pseudonymous troll. Like a true troll, he turns to stone the minute light is shone on him. As such, he is insignificant; but the evil people like thordaddy promulgate is significant. It needs to be discerned and, more importantly, it needs to be thoroughly resisted and rejected by serious Christians everywhere.

Note added: The bulk of thordaddy's comments above can be found in this post from Throne and Altar. 

Further note added: I have decided to republish the original content of this post because I believe it contains an important message. People like thordaddy correctly identify the evil inherent in the current anti-racism/anti-white /self-hatred agenda, but their lines of thinking offer no viable solutions. In fact, their lines of thinking only serve to play into the hands of anti-racism agenda by giving it exactly what it desires - the presence of "white supremacists" intent on violence in the name of racial purity. Picture the System as an organ grinder and people like thordaddy as the monkeys dancing to the tunes the organ grinds out and you get a fairly clear image of the dynamics involved. 
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Ingemar
3/9/2021 01:40:14

The primary problem with thordaddy is that nobody understands what he's talking about, least of all himself I suspect.

He cannot answer simple question when asked and always finds a way to warp the topic into his monomania of white supremacism.

I pity him.

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Francis Berger
3/9/2021 08:15:51

@ Ingemar - The primary problem with Thordaddy is that he knows *exactly* what he is doing, and he is doing it willfully and consciously.

BTW - you are featured in NLR's latest post. Here's the link in case you haven't read the post yet.

https://nolongerreading.blogspot.com/2021/03/rules-qua-rules.html

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Francis Berger
3/9/2021 10:23:13

@ Ingemar - @ Ingemar - Then again, I may be wrong and he could be suffering from some severe mental disorder.

Either way, I couldn't take any more of his commenting.

If he is mentally sound, I sincerely hope he repents. If he is mentally unsound, I pray he somehow manages to see the light.

Ingemar link
3/9/2021 17:03:40

I'm returning to blogging after over a decade of not using that medium.

https://chainsofpeter.blogspot.com/

The problem is that I can't post on anything that hasn't already been adequately covered by our intellectual "posse." The sequel post I've been promising has been in the backburner for three weeks.

john smitty
3/9/2021 04:25:22

I don't know what Thordaddy is trying to say. But Christianity has to be localized to a particular culture and ethnicity, as it has traditionally been in the Orthodox world, like Russian Orthodoxy, Greek Orthodoxy, etc. When a culture denies this and tries to have some kind of cosmopolitan "citizen of the world" Christianity that works exactly the same for all races and places, it simply ceases to work and becomes communism/socialism and SJWism and "judge not"ism that leads to all manner of sexual degeneracy.

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Francis Berger
3/9/2021 08:06:20

@ john smitty - I see what you mean, but I disagree to a certain extent. Christianity doesn't have to be localized to a particular culture and ethnicity - it has to live and breathe in individual people.

Here's the thing - Jesus's offer of eternal life IS universal - meaning it is available to everyone, regardless of culture or ethnicity. If this were not the case, it never would have expanded beyond Judea (where it was, in fact, mostly rejected).

Nevertheless, this does not imply that all races and places, or the individuals within those races and places are equal. The universality of Jesus's offer of eternal life is a universal reality; the equality of all people is a material unreality.

Contemporary Christians struggle to draw the dividing line between spiritual reality and material unreality, which helps explain why Christianity has been steadily picked apart by materialists and misguided believers off all stripes and colors.

Things are now at the point and we need to get back to the basics. Christianity is about the primacy of the spiritual, which is essentially this - do you believe in Jesus and his offer of eternal life?

Once that has been firmly established, Christians can seek others who also accept the offer of eternal life and begin to build or rebuild churches and communities founded upon, ordered around, and aligned with the acceptance of eternal life.

But this would entail the primacy of the spiritual, which means all worldly considerations, though necessary, would remain of lesser significance.

Simply put, Christ first, world second; not world first, Christ second.
All contemporary Christians need to do inner work regarding this, and be brutally honest with themselves as they work through their thinking.

Our materialist/secular societies put world and only world first - and reject Christ altogether.

Corrupted churches put world first and Christ second (and in some cases, that's being generous).

People like thordaddy pretend to put Christ first, but they are actually putting world first. Whether Christ actually fits into their equations at all is dubious. But it doesn't really matter, because anyone who puts world before Christ is already on the wrong side.

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Христина Беева
3/9/2021 08:14:19

I'm not sure Orthodoxy has nationalistic flavors like that. Of course, there are bishops and clerics sometimes spewing a nationalistic message, but it's not central. When Balkaners travel to Orthodox countries, the predominant mood is - it's OK, they're Orthodox, and there's a feeling of closeness.

Hyper-nationalistic crazies in the Balkans usually take a step backward into paganism. In Bulgaria, it's the imitation of the old Mongol faith and talks of Tangra and whatnot. Or the Thracian religion for the more intellectually inclined (of course, not the real deal, but a 21st century replica, mostly supplied by one enthusiastic university professor). I'm not sure what myths the other neighbors have, but I've heard some circling around early Thracian tribes as well, in a quest for "who owned these lands the earliest".

It's a fun circus to watch from the side, but it is clearly spiritual suicide. Joyless, not entirely mechanical, but not creative. Thought suppression, lifestyle suppression, toxic shaming, the works. Some try a form of natalism, but strangely fail to convince the ladies to produce mega-broods for Tangra. The whole thing quickly devolves to showcasing tattoos and fitness regimens on social media, nothing real.

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Francis Berger
3/9/2021 08:21:06

@ Христина Беева - Good comment. Thanks.

"Joyless, not entirely mechanical, but not creative." You hit the nail on the head here. Christianity that is not centered upon joy and creativity can barely be called Christianity.

William James Tychonievich link
3/9/2021 04:31:03

Wait, Kristor Lawson has written "an inter(p)retation of Thordaddy"? The mind boggles. Maybe I should go ahead and publish my hermeneutic analysis of Francis E. Dec.

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Francis Berger
3/10/2021 14:36:17

@ Ingemar - That's great news! I took a peak. Looks good. I like the photo very much. It's nice to match a face to the conversations we've participated in online.

I didn't do much with this blog until about three years ago so I know what you mean.

Getting myself to blog daily, or almost daily, is what did the trick for me.

Focus on quantity first and on quality later. Just get into a routine. Once you do, the ideas will flow. Most bloggers never get past the first few posts because they are trying too hard to write perfect posts.

After a couple of weeks without posting, they give up in frustration. If you can't think of anything to write about, post a reflection or an observation or write about a tune you like. Whatever. Just get into the habit of posting regularly. That's the only advice I can offer.

Good luck. I look forward to reading your blog.

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