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Render Unto Science What is Science's; Or, Why It Is an Error to Pin One's Hopes On Team Save Western Civilization

5/22/2022

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As an addendum to yesterday's post in which I argued against pinning one's hopes on Team Save Western Civilization, I would like to offer some support to back up my argument.

Before wading into it, I need to stress that these of sorts judgments do not really need to be supported in any conventional sense to be valid.

On the contrary, judgments like the one I publicized about Team Save Western Civilization yesterday are largely a matter of personal experience, intuition, and spiritual discernment, which could also be described as a "just know" position.

Things coming to a point in 2020 have made this "just know" level much easier, but it only works if you are aware of the point that was reached in 2020.

Anway, on to the support. The paragraph below is excerpted from the speech the Hungarian Prime Minister gave at the recent CPAC Conference in Budapest (bold and paragraph breaks added): 


Our seventh point: do not get pushed to the extreme. I say this because extreme conspiracy theories rear their heads from time to time on the right – just as extreme utopias regularly rear their heads on the left. If we take a deeper look, we see that in fact people want neither. 

But, Dear Friends, what is the difference between the denial of science by the extreme right and the denial of biology by LGBTQ movements? The answer is simple: there is no difference whatsoever. We must render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, unto God the things that are God’s, and unto Science the things that are Science’s. 

We may gain immense popularity on internet forums by promoting conspiracy theories – and indeed sometimes there is truth in them; but in reality we will alienate a large proportion of the electorate, find ourselves pushed to the margins, and eventually we will lose.


Render unto Science the things that are Science's.

Well, I honestly don't know where to start. To tack this statement onto Jesus's message is in and of itself profane, perhaps even blasphemous, especially when we acknowledge that the science to which Orbán refers is thoroughly corrupt, explicitly anti-Truth, anti-God, and blatantly anti-Creation -- hence, not science. 

Orbán's augmentation and inversion of the sentences Jesus used to turn the tables on a Pharisee-set trap discloses much about the truths Orbán and others like him seek to avoid.

Though he parades around as one of the West's greatest defenders, Orbán fully knows that he actively, willingly, and eagerly helped kill Western Civilization and usher in the 2020 global totalitarian coup via the birdemic and its "science".

Moreover, Orbán and the rest of Team Save Western Civilization will continue to employ "the birdemic cover story as a complete explanation for sudden, instant, universal totalitarianism", all under the unquestionable, inviolable, and untouchable banner of "science" or, more correctly, lies. 

Anyone who refuses to render unto science the things that are science's is guilty of a thought crime and will be deemed an extremist.  
 

And just how sound and unchallengeable is this science through which Orbán helped usher in global totalitarianism and upon which all "science things" must be rendered? 

Well, back in 2021, the Hungarian PM stated the following regarding the science's official diktat on lockdowns, social distancing, masking and birdemic peck effectiveness (code and bold added): 


"In the past, we defended ourselves by closing, thereby slowing the spread of the virus. But now we are on the attack. The peck is like a bulletproof vest. The virus bounces off of it."

"Closing" did not defend anyone from anything. Closing devastated the economy and the population. Closing stripped all Hungarians of their supposed fundamental rights. The peck is anything but a bulletproof vest. All of my pecked colleagues and friends who donned the vest have caught birdemic bullets -- some repeatedly -- in spite of it.

That's some science, that.  

A writer at the Gates of Vienna blog noted the following, which aligns with some of what I expressed in my post yesterday (bold added, code words added): 

I guess “science” means the birdemic psy-op. And “far-right denial of science” means that the “Mi Hazánk” (Our Homeland) party has exposed the birdemic psy-op and has been voted into the Parliament.

Again, Hungary is playing the antagonist in the NWO theater, against the more overt “woke” part of the global Communist revolution, along with the invited US Republican party and the whole “conservative idea”. And the more covert part of the Communist revolution is the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” within the “Great Reset”, which Hungary is heavily invested in.

The Powers That Be are playing both sides.


Sound points, but they miss the spiritual aspect entirely. The larger point is this - the two sides the Establishment are playing are both on the wrong side of God and Creation, which is why it is pointless for anyone to pin their hopes on the side of Team Save Western Civilization. 

All politics now is System politics, which means all politics here and now belong to Satan, the Father of Lies.

Which leads to the ultimate point. Despite its declarations to the contrary, Team Save Western Civilization is "in on" the global totalitarian coup, and its main mission within the machinations of System politics has to do with keeping people psychologically and spiritually attuned to the System and its lies to prevent the manifestation of spiritual creativity and divine, creation-sustaining, Christian thinking. 
19 Comments
Whitney
5/22/2022 15:12:16

Render unto science! Seriously, my jaw dropped when I read that. The left and the right leadership are just two sides of the same bad penny. Without Jesus Christ you cannot make sense of any this but with Him it is remarkable how everything comes into focus. Pray for discernment, pray that the grace of the holy Ghost to enlighten your heart and mind and that you persevere till the end, pray for your friends, pray for your enemies. And pray the rosary.

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CPL Antero Rokka
5/22/2022 20:12:20

"The Powers That Be are playing both sides."

True, very true. Which leads a thinker in faith and reason to ask: "Why would TPTB resort to the 'two prong envelopment' if a simple direct assault will not work?

Methinks we are winning GREATLY and their Luciferian generalship needs much to be desired! We're on to them!

St. Michael the Archangel--Defend us in battle!

VIVA CRISTO REY!

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bruce charlton
5/22/2022 20:19:45

The Hungarian PM seems like a show put on for foreigners - in which he speaks a script but never does anything substantive. As usual, one must ignore what people say, and laws and policies - and observe what actually happens.

It's nearly always a mistake to be impressed by what is happening in some other country - because (unless you have an on the ground source) it is just being impressed by mass media reports.

e.g. Some foreign people on the Right are impressed by Brexit, but it has made Zero positive difference 'on the ground'; the Establishment neutered any possible value during the (2 additional-year extended) 'negotiation' process.

The SWC idea misses the reality that Western Civ has-been and is actively, and aggressively being destroyed across many fronts, over many decades - and until that stops - until most powerful people Want it to stop - the 'saving' cannot even begin!

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Francis Berger
5/23/2022 08:02:15

@ Bruce - "The Hungarian PM seems like a show put on for foreigners - in which he speaks a script but never does anything substantive."

Yes, and he is also a show put on for Hungarians. His talk echoes what the average Hungarian wants to hear, but his policies never lead to anything really "Good". On the contrary, most turn out to be in line with the totalitarian agenda to a greater or lesser degree.

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Lady Mermaid link
5/24/2022 04:54:14

Unfortunately, many Americans were initially impressed w/ Orban b/c he did some positive things such as standing up to the EU on mass immigration and recognizing the need for more children. However, Francis, who actually lives under his government, has opened my eyes to the fraud of this man.

Many Americans went gaga for Orban b/c he handed out cash to Hungarians in hopes of more babies. However, many countries have tried such policies. They always lead to a short term spike in the birth rate as parents may have a child sooner than planned but no long term changes. All of Orban's progress was erased by the birdemic closures and the fact that women did not want to get pregnant right after taking the peck shots that he basically forced them to have in order to live normal life.

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Francis Berger
5/24/2022 10:16:45

@ Lady Mermaid - I initially held out some hope for Orbán, too -- but the events of 2020 have revealed too much.

https://www.francisberger.com/blog/hungarys-malicious-attempt-to-birth-a-generation-of-orbanjugend

Your point about his incentives for Hungarians to have more children is a good one. As the link above shows, I initially thought the program was a good thing overall. The core of the family scheme is real estate. The incentive is for families to have more children in exchange for more affordable housing in the form of government grants and low interest loans.

Well, the loans and grants hit the market, and guess what happened? The price of an average home in Hungary tripled or quadrupled within five years. I purchased my home here in 2016. I can sell it now for three to four times what I paid for it, and this is largely due to the family housing program. So, how exactly did this make housing more affordable or what did it do to motivate young people to have more kids?

And that's just one example. Nearly all of Orbán's policies are similar. They sound good in theory, but the reality is something very different indeed.

Baron Bodissey link
5/22/2022 20:40:15

I'll make sure László sees your essay.

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Stuart
5/23/2022 03:25:07

When I look at the Globalism and abject perversion of the US and the EU, perhaps the true defender of Western Christianity is Russia?

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Francis Berger
5/23/2022 08:04:18

@ Stuart - Berdyaev and Dostoevsky thought so; however, I'm not convinced. If Russia truly is a defender of Christianity, it should start being a little more vocal about it and a little less aligned with totalitarian policies like the birdemic, climate change, WHO, etc.

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bruce charlton
5/23/2022 19:38:06

I echo Frank's points. It may be that Russia was/is *destined* (i.e. intended by God) to be the last bastion of traditionalist *church* Christianity - albeit not in 'The West'; but so far Russia has Not taken up this mantle, has not resumed the traditional Eastern Orthodox polity - ruled by Tsar and Patriarch; and remains secular.

Jaybo link
5/23/2022 14:59:14

Somebody might want to read the Book. This is ALL covered in Revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc.

We that have not bended knee are waiting our removal, and the rest are waiting for their savior

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John Venlet link
5/23/2022 21:27:22

Francis, both this post, and the one immediately preceding, accurately describe where the world is at today. By the world, I mean all institutions of power, not matter within what country they reside. "Team Save Western Civilization" is not protecting the corpse of Western Civilization," they are parading its corpse around ala "Weekend at Bernie's." The only thing that can save Western Civilization is a worldwide spiritual re-awakening, a return to classical Christianity. All we as Christian men and women can do is interact as little with the world as we possibly can, giving to today's caesar's what is caeser's, but nothing more. Scripture admonishes us to NOT be a part of this world, though we are in it, an endeavor that is not simple to accomplish. If we as Christian men and women desire to be a part of the saving of Western Civilization, we must do this one man and one woman at a time. We cannot help each other, unless we first help ourselves, and the only way to do this is to give our hearts, minds and souls to God. He has promised to renew our minds and hearts, if we only will put our trust and faith in him. This does not mean we will not have discouragements when things seem to continue spiraling into madness and evil, but it does mean if we truly put our faith in The Creator and the saving grace of His Son, nothing can harm us, though death may knock on our door.

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Francis Berger
5/24/2022 10:22:19

@ John - Well put.

"The only thing that can save Western Civilization is a worldwide spiritual re-awakening . . ."

Precisely -- a Christian spiritual re-awakening. Without that, there is no West to save, so there's no point looking to politicians and other external authority figures because all of them are working feverishly to ensure such a re-awakening never takes place.

We need to stop looking at the System for solutions. This is a spiritual war. The front line is each and every person. The re-awakening is a matter of personal responsibility.

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Lady Mermaid link
5/24/2022 04:48:09

William Wildblood had an excellent piece about the danger of science.
http://meetingthemasters.blogspot.com/2022/01/science-and-god.html

While science was initially a tool into understanding God's creation, modern man now serves the creature rather than the Creator. The deification of science is constantly on display w/ phrases:

"Science always corrects itself."
"Trust the Science"
"The Science is settled".

This spirit is sadly quite common among Christians as you've demonstrated through the Orban government. I remember the organization BioLogos who initially tried to build relationships btw evangelicals and the scientific community especially in light of controversial subjects like evolution. However, the scientism of the organization become quite obvious as multiple interpretations of Scripture were encouraged but questioning evolution in any way was an anathema. Unsurprisingly, BioLogos has failed every spiritual litmus test as members have advocated antiracism, the sexual revolution, and peck shots all from a Christian perspective of course.

As a daughter of a science teacher, I have respect for the true scientific process that describes certain aspects of God's creation. However, the idolatry of science that is displayed by the Orban government and others is abhorrent. Science needs to be taken down from its pedestal. We must remember that scientists are fallible human beings. Furthermore, science should not be the moral or spiritual authority over our lives. Science has no right to place normal healthy people under indefinite house arrest, force elderly people to die alone, abolish freedom of movement, destroy effective energy use, or eliminate public worship. If that is what science is, then science can go pound sand.

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László
5/24/2022 12:57:16

Hungary is still The Most Cheerful Barrack -- of the NWO Gulag!

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Francis Berger
5/24/2022 17:59:19

@ Laszló - Yes, that's strikes me as far more accurate than the image the Hungarian government and assorted global "conservatives" paint of the country, its motivations, and its current circumstances.

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lea
5/26/2022 05:31:05

Starting with the slightly inane disclaimer that i am still 'agnostic' by most definitions, leaning more and more towards being hopeful of 'Sophia Perennis' coming to light (no God is not a girl, if only it were that simple), those demarcations are not disagreements, rather then doubts. We should completely stop arguing over the permutations in perception and vision when it comes to all that before a certain agreement has been reached, the most important agreement of all;

Most spiritually inclined people said that solipsism cannot be real, most philosophers agreed. Both so far have agreed that the intricate and complex nature of the cosmos cannot be caused by total randomness, mathematicians have chimed in on this later. Physicists sometimes jump out of line inventing stuff, but generally agree as well, they just describe the organizing mechanisms differently, see Penrose's latest tome.

Historically fairly suddenly, the consensus flipped, and things changed. The fire-starter might have been Descartes but it has been a long back and forth since then. Tesla will remain a mystery and savant states along with him despite the 'advances' of neurology. Grandfathers of math and modern logic still advocated doubt and the possibility of the divine, like Leibniz and Pascal, but in the 20th century a new mentality took the helm somehow.

Of course things did not flip right there, a summary of science history from a n00b like me will lack, but the tendency changed for the worse.
Science started to see itself as the shepherd of humanity somewhere around that point, and then fairly quickly got co-opted by questionable people with delusions of grandeur. All this exacerbated by things i need to save for a 2nd post.

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lea
5/26/2022 05:33:21

With a quick in between note; it all ties in to the post that i found you with: https://www.francisberger.com/blog/despiritualization-is-dehumanization

This holds true for any real faith on the planet.

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Amo Boden
6/4/2022 11:44:53

Brilliant

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